twice same mistake?

[Dean]

Ok, here are 2 Hands that happened in 5 minutes. Id say the first one is not great since he 3bets me on the turn and i should be able to get away from it - but then again he is most likely a fish limp-calling UTG...
In the second one: is it better to just call down no matter what because he is heavily polarized with the raise and big turn bet?


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 132.24 BB
SB: 147.08 BB (VPIP: 16.33, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 101)
BB: 75.72 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 108.12 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.37, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.40, Hands: 329)
CO: 128.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) 
UTG bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (15.4 BB, 2 players) 
UTG bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 13.6 BB, UTG raises to 101.12 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 87.52 BB

River: (217.64 BB, 2 players) 

UTG shows  T:heart:  (Straight, Ace High)
 (Pre 46%, Flop 26%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows    (Three of a Kind, Eights)
 (Pre 54%, Flop 74%, Turn 23%)
UTG wins 209.64 BB



PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 350.68 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 107.2 BB (VPIP: 29.29, PFR: 18.57, 3Bet Preflop: 1.65, Hands: 579)
MP: 136.36 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 114 BB (VPIP: 23.21, PFR: 5.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) 
BB checks, Hero bets 5.2 BB, BB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 8.8 BB

Turn: (34.4 BB, 2 players) 
BB bets 30 BB, Hero raises to 83 BB and is all-in, BB calls 53 BB and is all-in

River: (200.4 BB, 2 players) 

BB shows  T:club:  (Straight, Ace High)

Hero shows    (Three of a Kind, Jacks)

BB wins 192.4 BB

[w34z3l]

Hand 1 - We have a set vs a limp/caller. If you think this is /ever/ going to be a fold, your poker radar is way off. This is a fantastic situation for us.

Hand 2 - We have the effective nuts on the flop and should be 3betting. Why wait until the draws complete on the turn to raise? Your line is definitely not the best here, but either way, it's highly unlikely this hand is getting folded.


It's really important that you can objectively evaluate situations regardless of the results.

[Dean]

Thanks! Yea, hand 1 vs limpcaller i wasnt too worried because he is a donk. Second hand i just wanted to give him the possibility to bluff once more on the turn since he is out of position. But so we should fastplay there because of the drawyness of the board?